"The Road to Area 51 After decades of denying the facility's existence, five former insiders speak out by Annie Jacobsen" {Area 51. It's the most famous military institution in the world that doesn't officially exist. If it did, it would be found about 100 miles outside Las Vegas in Nevada's high desert, tucked between an Air Force base and an abandoned nuclear testing ground. Then again, maybe not— the U.S. government refuses to say. You can't drive anywhere close to it, and until recently, the airspace overhead was restricted—all the way to outer space. Any mention of Area 51 gets redacted from official documents, even those that have been declassified for decades.It has become the holy grail for conspiracy theorists, with UFOlogists positing that the Pentagon reverse engineers flying saucers and keeps extraterrestrial beings stored in freezers. Urban legend has it that Area 51 is connected by underground tunnels and trains to other secret facilities around the country. In 2001, Katie Couric told Today Show audiences that 7 percent of Americans doubt the moon landing happened—that it was staged in the Nevada desert. Millions of X-Files fans believe the truth may be "out there," but more likely it's concealed inside Area 51's Strangelove-esque hangars—buildings that, though confirmed by Google Earth, the government refuses to acknowledge. The problem is the myths of Area 51 are hard to dispute if no one can speak on the record about what actually happened there. Well, now, for the first time, someone is ready to talk—in fact, five men are, and their stories rival the most outrageous of rumors. Colonel Hugh "Slip" Slater, 87, was commander of the Area 51 base in the 1960s. Edward Lovick, 90, featured in "What Plane?" in LA's March issue, spent three decades radar testing some of the world's most famous aircraft (including the U-2, the A-12 OXCART and the F-117). Kenneth Collins, 80, a CIA experimental test pilot, was given the silver star. Thornton "T.D." Barnes, 72, was an Area 51 special-projects engineer. And Harry Martin, 77, was one of the men in charge of the base's half-million-gallon monthly supply of spy-plane fuels. Here are a few of their best stories—for the record:On May 24, 1963, Collins flew out of Area 51's restricted airspace in a top-secret spy plane code-named OXCART, built by Lockheed Aircraft Corporation. He was flying over Utah when the aircraft pitched, flipped and headed toward a crash. He ejected into a field of weeds.Almost 46 years later, in late fall of 2008, sitting in a coffee shop in the San Fernando Valley, Collins remembers that day with the kind of clarity the threat of a national security breach evokes: "Three guys came driving toward me in a pickup. I saw they had the aircraft canopy in the back. They offered to take me to my plane." Until that moment, no civilian without a top-secret security clearance had ever laid eyes on the airplane Collins was flying. "I told them not to go near the aircraft. I said it had a nuclear weapon on-board." The story fit right into the Cold War backdrop of the day, as many atomic tests took place in Nevada. Spooked, the men drove Collins to the local highway patrol. The CIA disguised the accident as involving a generic Air Force plane, the F-105, which is how the event is still listed in official records. As for the guys who picked him up, they were tracked down and told to sign national security nondisclosures. As part of Collins' own debriefing, the CIA asked the decorated pilot to take truth serum. "They wanted to see if there was anything I'd for-gotten about the events leading up to the crash." The Sodium Pento-thal experience went without a hitch—except for the reaction of his wife, Jane."Late Sunday, three CIA agents brought me home. One drove my car; the other two carried me inside and laid me down on the couch. I was loopy from the drugs. They handed Jane the car keys and left without saying a word." The only conclusion she could draw was that her husband had gone out and gotten drunk. "Boy, was she mad," says Collins with a chuckle.At the time of Collins' accident, CIA pilots had been flying spy planes in and out of Area 51 for eight years, with the express mission of providing the intelligence to prevent nuclear war. Aerial reconnaissance was a major part of the CIA's preemptive efforts, while the rest of America built bomb shelters and hoped for the best."It wasn't always called Area 51," says Lovick, the physicist who developed stealth technology. His boss, legendary aircraft designer Clarence L. "Kelly" Johnson, called the place Paradise Ranch to entice men to leave their families and "rough it" out in the Nevada desert in the name of science and the fight against the evil empire. "Test pilot Tony LeVier found the place by flying over it," says Lovick. "It was a lake bed called Groom Lake, selected for testing because it was flat and far from anything. It was kept secret because the CIA tested U-2s there."When Frances Gary Powers was shot down over Sverdlovsk, Russia, in 1960, the U-2 program lost its cover. But the CIA already had Lovick and some 200 scientists, engineers and pilots working at Area 51 on the A-12 OXCART, which would outfox Soviet radar using height, stealth and speed.Col. Slater was in the outfit of six pilots who flew OXCART missions during the Vietnam War. Over a Cuban meat and cheese sandwich at the Bahama Breeze restaurant off the Las Vegas Strip, he says, "I was recruited for the Area after working with the CIA's classified Black Cat Squadron, which flew U-2 missions over denied territory in Mainland China. After that, I was told, 'You should come out to Nevada and work on something interesting we're doing out there.' "Even though Slater considers himself a fighter pilot at heart—he flew 84 missions in World War II—the opportunity to work at Area 51 was impossible to pass up. "When I learned about this Mach-3 aircraft called OXCART, it was completely intriguing to me—this idea of flying three times the speed of sound! No one knew a thing about the program. I asked my wife, Barbara, if she wanted to move to Las Vegas, and she said yes. And I said, 'You won't see me but on the weekends,' and she said, 'That's fine!' " At this recollection, Slater laughs heartily. Barbara, dining with us, laughs as well. The two, married for 63 years, are rarely apart today."We couldn't have told you any of this a year ago," Slater says. "Now we can't tell it to you fast enough." That is because in 2007, the CIA began declassifying the 50-year-old OXCART program. Today, there's a scramble for eyewitnesses to fill in the information gaps. Only a few of the original players are left. Two more of them join me and the Slaters for lunch: Barnes, formerly an Area 51 special-projects engineer, with his wife, Doris; and Martin, one of those overseeing the OXCART's specially mixed jet fuel (regular fuel explodes at extreme height, temperature and speed), with his wife, Mary. Because the men were sworn to secrecy for so many decades, their wives still get a kick out of hearing the secret tales.Barnes was married at 17 (Doris was 16). To support his wife, he became an electronics wizard, buying broken television sets, fixing them up and reselling them for five times the original price. He went from living in bitter poverty on a Texas Panhandle ranch with no electricity to buying his new bride a dream home before he was old enough to vote. As a soldier in the Korean War, Barnes demonstrated an uncanny aptitude for radar and Nike missile systems, which made him a prime target for recruitment by the CIA—which indeed happened when he was 22. By 30, he was handling nuclear secrets."The agency located each guy at the top of a certain field and put us together for the programs at Area 51," says Barnes. As a security precaution, he couldn't reveal his birth name—he went by the moniker Thunder. Coworkers traveled in separate cars, helicopters and airplanes. Barnes and his group kept to themselves, even in the mess hall. "Our special-projects group was the most classified team since the Manhattan Project," he says.Harry Martin's specialty was fuel. Handpicked by the CIA from the Air Force, he underwent rigorous psychological and physical tests to see if he was up for the job. When he passed, the CIA moved his family to Nevada. Because OXCART had to refuel frequently, the CIA kept supplies at secret facilities around the globe. Martin often traveled to these bases for quality-control checks. He tells of preparing for a top-secret mission from Area 51 to Thule, Greenland. "My wife took one look at me in these arctic boots and this big hooded coat, and she knew not to ask where I was going."So, what of those urban legends—the UFOs studied in secret, the underground tunnels connecting clandestine facilities? For decades, the men at Area 51 thought they'd take their secrets to the grave. At the height of the Cold War, they cultivated anonymity while pursuing some of the country's most covert projects. Conspiracy theories were left to popular imagination. But in talking with Collins, Lovick, Slater, Barnes and Martin, it is clear that much of the folklore was spun from threads of fact.As for the myths of reverse engineering of flying saucers, Barnes offers some insight: "We did reverse engineer a lot of foreign technology, including the Soviet MiG fighter jet out at the Area"—even though the MiG wasn't shaped like a flying saucer. As for the underground-tunnel talk, that, too, was born of truth. Barnes worked on a nuclear-rocket program called Project NERVA, inside underground chambers at Jackass Flats, in Area 51's backyard. "Three test-cell facilities were connected by railroad, but everything else was underground," he says.And the quintessential Area 51 conspiracy—that the Pentagon keeps captured alien spacecraft there, which they fly around in restricted airspace? Turns out that one's pretty easy to debunk. The shape of OXCART was unprece-dented, with its wide, disk-like fuselage designed to carry vast quantities of fuel. Commercial pilots cruising over Nevada at dusk would look up and see the bottom of OXCART whiz by at 2,000-plus mph. The aircraft's tita-nium body, moving as fast as a bullet, would reflect the sun's rays in a way that could make anyone think, UFO.In all, 2,850 OXCART test flights were flown out of Area 51 while Slater was in charge. "That's a lot of UFO sightings!" Slater adds. Commercial pilots would report them to the FAA, and "when they'd land in California, they'd be met by FBI agents who'd make them sign nondisclosure forms." But not everyone kept quiet, hence the birth of Area 51's UFO lore. The sightings incited uproar in Nevada and the surrounding areas and forced the Air Force to open Project BLUE BOOK to log each claim.Since only a few Air Force officials were cleared for OXCART (even though it was a joint CIA/USAF project), many UFO sightings raised internal military alarms. Some generals believed the Russians might be sending stealth craft over American skies to incite paranoia and create widespread panic of alien invasion. Today, BLUE BOOK findings are housed in 37 cubic feet of case files at the National Archives—74,000 pages of reports. A keyword search brings up no mention of the top-secret OXCART or Area 51.Project BLUE BOOK was shut down in 1969—more than a year after OXCART was retired. But what continues at America's most clandestine military facility could take another 40 years to disclose.} "ANNIE JACOBSEN is an investigative reporter who sat for more than 500 interviews after she broke the story on terrorists probing commercial airliners. When she isn’t digging into intelligence issues for the likes of the National Review, she’s snapping together Legos with her two boys." http://www.latimes.com/features/la-mag-april052009-backstory,0,3355162.story
TFZ is an exploration into various mysteries & peculiarities through the sands of time & space...
Tuesday, April 07, 2009
Area 51 Revelations
"The Road to Area 51 After decades of denying the facility's existence, five former insiders speak out by Annie Jacobsen" {Area 51. It's the most famous military institution in the world that doesn't officially exist. If it did, it would be found about 100 miles outside Las Vegas in Nevada's high desert, tucked between an Air Force base and an abandoned nuclear testing ground. Then again, maybe not— the U.S. government refuses to say. You can't drive anywhere close to it, and until recently, the airspace overhead was restricted—all the way to outer space. Any mention of Area 51 gets redacted from official documents, even those that have been declassified for decades.It has become the holy grail for conspiracy theorists, with UFOlogists positing that the Pentagon reverse engineers flying saucers and keeps extraterrestrial beings stored in freezers. Urban legend has it that Area 51 is connected by underground tunnels and trains to other secret facilities around the country. In 2001, Katie Couric told Today Show audiences that 7 percent of Americans doubt the moon landing happened—that it was staged in the Nevada desert. Millions of X-Files fans believe the truth may be "out there," but more likely it's concealed inside Area 51's Strangelove-esque hangars—buildings that, though confirmed by Google Earth, the government refuses to acknowledge. The problem is the myths of Area 51 are hard to dispute if no one can speak on the record about what actually happened there. Well, now, for the first time, someone is ready to talk—in fact, five men are, and their stories rival the most outrageous of rumors. Colonel Hugh "Slip" Slater, 87, was commander of the Area 51 base in the 1960s. Edward Lovick, 90, featured in "What Plane?" in LA's March issue, spent three decades radar testing some of the world's most famous aircraft (including the U-2, the A-12 OXCART and the F-117). Kenneth Collins, 80, a CIA experimental test pilot, was given the silver star. Thornton "T.D." Barnes, 72, was an Area 51 special-projects engineer. And Harry Martin, 77, was one of the men in charge of the base's half-million-gallon monthly supply of spy-plane fuels. Here are a few of their best stories—for the record:On May 24, 1963, Collins flew out of Area 51's restricted airspace in a top-secret spy plane code-named OXCART, built by Lockheed Aircraft Corporation. He was flying over Utah when the aircraft pitched, flipped and headed toward a crash. He ejected into a field of weeds.Almost 46 years later, in late fall of 2008, sitting in a coffee shop in the San Fernando Valley, Collins remembers that day with the kind of clarity the threat of a national security breach evokes: "Three guys came driving toward me in a pickup. I saw they had the aircraft canopy in the back. They offered to take me to my plane." Until that moment, no civilian without a top-secret security clearance had ever laid eyes on the airplane Collins was flying. "I told them not to go near the aircraft. I said it had a nuclear weapon on-board." The story fit right into the Cold War backdrop of the day, as many atomic tests took place in Nevada. Spooked, the men drove Collins to the local highway patrol. The CIA disguised the accident as involving a generic Air Force plane, the F-105, which is how the event is still listed in official records. As for the guys who picked him up, they were tracked down and told to sign national security nondisclosures. As part of Collins' own debriefing, the CIA asked the decorated pilot to take truth serum. "They wanted to see if there was anything I'd for-gotten about the events leading up to the crash." The Sodium Pento-thal experience went without a hitch—except for the reaction of his wife, Jane."Late Sunday, three CIA agents brought me home. One drove my car; the other two carried me inside and laid me down on the couch. I was loopy from the drugs. They handed Jane the car keys and left without saying a word." The only conclusion she could draw was that her husband had gone out and gotten drunk. "Boy, was she mad," says Collins with a chuckle.At the time of Collins' accident, CIA pilots had been flying spy planes in and out of Area 51 for eight years, with the express mission of providing the intelligence to prevent nuclear war. Aerial reconnaissance was a major part of the CIA's preemptive efforts, while the rest of America built bomb shelters and hoped for the best."It wasn't always called Area 51," says Lovick, the physicist who developed stealth technology. His boss, legendary aircraft designer Clarence L. "Kelly" Johnson, called the place Paradise Ranch to entice men to leave their families and "rough it" out in the Nevada desert in the name of science and the fight against the evil empire. "Test pilot Tony LeVier found the place by flying over it," says Lovick. "It was a lake bed called Groom Lake, selected for testing because it was flat and far from anything. It was kept secret because the CIA tested U-2s there."When Frances Gary Powers was shot down over Sverdlovsk, Russia, in 1960, the U-2 program lost its cover. But the CIA already had Lovick and some 200 scientists, engineers and pilots working at Area 51 on the A-12 OXCART, which would outfox Soviet radar using height, stealth and speed.Col. Slater was in the outfit of six pilots who flew OXCART missions during the Vietnam War. Over a Cuban meat and cheese sandwich at the Bahama Breeze restaurant off the Las Vegas Strip, he says, "I was recruited for the Area after working with the CIA's classified Black Cat Squadron, which flew U-2 missions over denied territory in Mainland China. After that, I was told, 'You should come out to Nevada and work on something interesting we're doing out there.' "Even though Slater considers himself a fighter pilot at heart—he flew 84 missions in World War II—the opportunity to work at Area 51 was impossible to pass up. "When I learned about this Mach-3 aircraft called OXCART, it was completely intriguing to me—this idea of flying three times the speed of sound! No one knew a thing about the program. I asked my wife, Barbara, if she wanted to move to Las Vegas, and she said yes. And I said, 'You won't see me but on the weekends,' and she said, 'That's fine!' " At this recollection, Slater laughs heartily. Barbara, dining with us, laughs as well. The two, married for 63 years, are rarely apart today."We couldn't have told you any of this a year ago," Slater says. "Now we can't tell it to you fast enough." That is because in 2007, the CIA began declassifying the 50-year-old OXCART program. Today, there's a scramble for eyewitnesses to fill in the information gaps. Only a few of the original players are left. Two more of them join me and the Slaters for lunch: Barnes, formerly an Area 51 special-projects engineer, with his wife, Doris; and Martin, one of those overseeing the OXCART's specially mixed jet fuel (regular fuel explodes at extreme height, temperature and speed), with his wife, Mary. Because the men were sworn to secrecy for so many decades, their wives still get a kick out of hearing the secret tales.Barnes was married at 17 (Doris was 16). To support his wife, he became an electronics wizard, buying broken television sets, fixing them up and reselling them for five times the original price. He went from living in bitter poverty on a Texas Panhandle ranch with no electricity to buying his new bride a dream home before he was old enough to vote. As a soldier in the Korean War, Barnes demonstrated an uncanny aptitude for radar and Nike missile systems, which made him a prime target for recruitment by the CIA—which indeed happened when he was 22. By 30, he was handling nuclear secrets."The agency located each guy at the top of a certain field and put us together for the programs at Area 51," says Barnes. As a security precaution, he couldn't reveal his birth name—he went by the moniker Thunder. Coworkers traveled in separate cars, helicopters and airplanes. Barnes and his group kept to themselves, even in the mess hall. "Our special-projects group was the most classified team since the Manhattan Project," he says.Harry Martin's specialty was fuel. Handpicked by the CIA from the Air Force, he underwent rigorous psychological and physical tests to see if he was up for the job. When he passed, the CIA moved his family to Nevada. Because OXCART had to refuel frequently, the CIA kept supplies at secret facilities around the globe. Martin often traveled to these bases for quality-control checks. He tells of preparing for a top-secret mission from Area 51 to Thule, Greenland. "My wife took one look at me in these arctic boots and this big hooded coat, and she knew not to ask where I was going."So, what of those urban legends—the UFOs studied in secret, the underground tunnels connecting clandestine facilities? For decades, the men at Area 51 thought they'd take their secrets to the grave. At the height of the Cold War, they cultivated anonymity while pursuing some of the country's most covert projects. Conspiracy theories were left to popular imagination. But in talking with Collins, Lovick, Slater, Barnes and Martin, it is clear that much of the folklore was spun from threads of fact.As for the myths of reverse engineering of flying saucers, Barnes offers some insight: "We did reverse engineer a lot of foreign technology, including the Soviet MiG fighter jet out at the Area"—even though the MiG wasn't shaped like a flying saucer. As for the underground-tunnel talk, that, too, was born of truth. Barnes worked on a nuclear-rocket program called Project NERVA, inside underground chambers at Jackass Flats, in Area 51's backyard. "Three test-cell facilities were connected by railroad, but everything else was underground," he says.And the quintessential Area 51 conspiracy—that the Pentagon keeps captured alien spacecraft there, which they fly around in restricted airspace? Turns out that one's pretty easy to debunk. The shape of OXCART was unprece-dented, with its wide, disk-like fuselage designed to carry vast quantities of fuel. Commercial pilots cruising over Nevada at dusk would look up and see the bottom of OXCART whiz by at 2,000-plus mph. The aircraft's tita-nium body, moving as fast as a bullet, would reflect the sun's rays in a way that could make anyone think, UFO.In all, 2,850 OXCART test flights were flown out of Area 51 while Slater was in charge. "That's a lot of UFO sightings!" Slater adds. Commercial pilots would report them to the FAA, and "when they'd land in California, they'd be met by FBI agents who'd make them sign nondisclosure forms." But not everyone kept quiet, hence the birth of Area 51's UFO lore. The sightings incited uproar in Nevada and the surrounding areas and forced the Air Force to open Project BLUE BOOK to log each claim.Since only a few Air Force officials were cleared for OXCART (even though it was a joint CIA/USAF project), many UFO sightings raised internal military alarms. Some generals believed the Russians might be sending stealth craft over American skies to incite paranoia and create widespread panic of alien invasion. Today, BLUE BOOK findings are housed in 37 cubic feet of case files at the National Archives—74,000 pages of reports. A keyword search brings up no mention of the top-secret OXCART or Area 51.Project BLUE BOOK was shut down in 1969—more than a year after OXCART was retired. But what continues at America's most clandestine military facility could take another 40 years to disclose.} "ANNIE JACOBSEN is an investigative reporter who sat for more than 500 interviews after she broke the story on terrorists probing commercial airliners. When she isn’t digging into intelligence issues for the likes of the National Review, she’s snapping together Legos with her two boys." http://www.latimes.com/features/la-mag-april052009-backstory,0,3355162.story
Sunday, November 15, 2009
George Knapp, Bob Lazar & Area 51, etc.
Tuesday, June 03, 2008
The Forbidden Zone :: TFZ@DS
Some posts will have additions or updates over the course of months or years, while other posts might remain static. Then there are some posts that remain in draft mode until there is enough info. In some cases a placeholder post will be made with the intent to add more to it later on.
Welcome-to-desert-of-real :: A paranormal intersection through the sands of time in the world & throughout the cosmos. https://inthesetimes.com/article/the-desert-of-the-real ,
Long_John_Nebel was one of the pioneers to talk openly about the paranormal and various mysteries.
Eventually Art_Bell got into the game and soared to the heights of popularity. http://artbell.com
http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_1.htm ,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Island_Discs ,
http://www.last.fm/music/Desert+Sessions
"The artwork for the album was created by artist Roger Dean, known for designing album covers for Yes in the 1970s. It features two paintings, the front titled "Blue Desert" and the back titled "Red Desert". Most releases of this album represent only a truncated version of "Blue Desert". There was, however, a special release with a gatefold cover, though "Blue Desert" was horizontally inverted in that version."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson_Bruford_Wakeman_Howe_(album)#History
Nick Redfern has been on www.coasttocoastam.com several times & is one of the best researchers & writers around. http://nickredfernfortean.blogspot.com &
http://desertdarkness.blogspot.com
One of the longest paranormal info outlets going is fatemag.com, it continues to be a great place to learn about all kinds of mysteries & topics.
This is quite an extensive & very informative blog. http://inexplicata.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/user/LunaCognita, http://www.youtube.com/user/unsealedfiles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity ,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_and_Beyond ,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Test_Site ,
http://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/area-51.htm
www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/01/area-51-customs ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQJUax0iAuQ
www.flickriver.com/photos/20connectedbreaths/2510603306
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maralinga:_Australia's_Nuclear_Waste_Cover-up
http://thecelestialconvergence.blogspot.ca/2012/06/extraterrestrial-ufo-memes-baltic-ufo.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project_(song) ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4zP7l2NFKs
http://www.metrolyrics.com/birthright-lyrics-yes.html ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXfCewBknbY
"The song "Birthright" concerns the British nuclear tests at Maralinga and incorporates some material originally written by Howe and Max Bacon for their post-GTR band Nerotrend."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson_Bruford_Wakeman_Howe_(album)#Song_notes ,
http://starling.rinet.ru/music/yes.htm
Midnight Oil – The Dead Heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16bFBzx7I_0 ,
https://www.midnightoil.com/music
http://www.theforbidden-zone.com/movies/index.shtml ,
http://www.scifimoviezone.com/planetapes01.shtml
Certain numbers and patterns reoccur in music, art & medial in general.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/666_(Aphrodite's_Child_album) ,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite's_Child#Influence_and_legacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur , http://www.ancient.eu/ur , http://history-world.org/ur.htm
From the discovery of an ancient+city to one almost built from scratch, things rise & fall throughout history.
The challenge is to be aware of what's been lost, suppressed or hidden throughout the ages. Then to keep comparing various perspectives on the mysteries of the cosmos.
http://dream-prophecy.blogspot.com/2007/11/prophecies-of-stormberger.html
Friday, December 02, 2022
An Area 51 deathbed confession resurfaces
A lot of people can tell an interesting story, but unless there is enough corroboration, it's just another story.
Thursday, January 08, 2015
Top Secrets of Area 51, etc.
Mysterious & peculiar shapes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XxPtvNPS7I
Son of an Area 51 Technician
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaK5WOz3Mf4
Area 51 still has quite a mystique to it.
RCH about the earths moon with images of lunar structures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc525WLBms0
Secret Structures on the Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4hycqDNnPE
Aliens Walking On The Moon, The Truth Exposed, Apollo 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wrTkK2p3B0
Reversed or back engineered tech is such a fascinating topic, especially the implications.
Technology from Extraterrestrials
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBO8z9pHAuA
Thursday, January 22, 2026
A mysterious triangular aircraft filmed near Area 51
https://www.coasttocoastam.com/article/video-mysterious-triangular-aircraft-filmed-near-area-51 This seems more like human copied or ET imitation technology. Which would make sense if reverse engineering is sometimes a limited process.
https://theaviationist.com/2026/01/18/dorito-shaped-aircraft-spotted-near-area-51
The "real" ET tech vehicles can move around without causing a contrail, no sonic booms and can also go very fast underwater, as if there is no resistance.
In a way, the Flying_wing and the Avro_VZ-9_Avrocar (disk) are examples of the cargo-cult mentality.
https://metarationality.com/upgrade-your-cargo-cult
While there can be several POVs on this, the original meaning has some astounding implications.
https://www.notechmagazine.com/2015/04/cargo-cults.html
Since the ET tech might not easily be reverse engendered, imitation vehicles would likely be the result.
https://business-digest.eu/are-you-guilty-of-cargo-cult-thinking-without-even-knowing-it/?lang=en
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_wing#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_VZ-9_Avrocar#U.S._Involvement:_Project_1794/WS_606A
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_VZ-9_Avrocar#Testing
https://theaviationist.com/2017/12/17/u-s-department-of-defense-video-shows-unknown-object-intercepted-by-u-s-navy-super-hornet-and-we-have-no-idea-what-it-was Was this a case of some successful reverse engineering of otherworldly technology?
https://theaviationist.com/category/drones Was the Tic-tac object just a very advanced drone tech from Earth, or was it from elsewhere?
https://thedigitallabyrinth.blogspot.com/search?q=bogie+and+bogey
Friday, June 17, 2022
Bill Clinton Discusses UFOs, Area 51, and Aliens with James Corden
How would the powers that be start to inform the general public that this world might be one of several advanced civilization in the universe?
Aside from all the myths and legends going back into ancient times, informing the public that some others might have had very advanced technology a very long time ago, can be challenging. That's because other civilizations could be so much older, would still be quite unsettling for some people to fathom.
Yet, various religions imply that someone made this world as well as celestial or inter-dimensional beings.
Monday, October 06, 2025
Monday, May 25, 2009
ALIEN 1979, George Knapp and A51
www.history.com/content/ufohunters, www.ufoconspiracy.com
The Incident (www.truthcontrol.com)
{"Barry Castillio, Lazar's coworker, told the story of an altercation that took place in 1979 between the aliens and the humans at the base. Apparently, the aliens were given a location at the facility to conduct experiments. It was agreed between the aliens and humans that there would be human military guards securing the immediate perimeter. One day, due to the volatility concerns the aliens had over a certain experiment that they were conducting, they demanded that the guards not be present. The concern was that the bullets in their guns and gunbelts would cause a reaction. The guards refused and proceeded to come closer to the danger area. They were immediately terminated by the aliens, later found by two other guards to be lying dead of identical head wounds.The actions and reactions of these events escalated until 44 military guards were killed. The aliens then killed the scientist they were teaching and left the facility and much of the alien technology behind.
The back engineering program began in late 1979 with the remaining hardware and technology. Before the aliens left, they somehow stated that they would return at a date represented by six digits starting with 1625xx. Lazar was given no cross reference for this date to our numbering system and couldn't speculate as to what the date meant. The xx's indicate unknown numbers."} from www.truthcontrol.com/node/bob-lazar
Wednesday, November 05, 2025
STORMING THE GATES With STEVE GOREHAM AND DANE WIGINGTON on GZ / Black Triangle Craft
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1372730674221652&set=pb.100044541964865.-2207520000&type=3
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https://medium.com/predict/tr-3b-black-triangle-ufo-reverse-engineering-or-sdi-legacy-948e6cb35751
https://archive.org/details/triangularufoses0000davi
https://www.history.com/articles/black-triangle-ufos-facts
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLldC__Pt_twpfLJPEMCSEcSE1qjhPazCE
https://www.businessinsider.com/pentagon-confirms-ufo-video-real-taken-by-us-navy-cnn-2021-4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_UFO_wave
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Area 51 Airline? | JANET: The Secret Government Airline That Doesn't Exist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-Veqz6JpQY
The Secret Airline of Area 51 - JANET https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr2yXpeVn4c
Janet https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ld3Cq3W3fcU
The US Government's Secret Airline? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWNGAUvSyOc
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Blue Oyster Cult - Take Me Away https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1NYhbiiiFw
Sunday, November 27, 2022
Joerg Arnu of dreamlandresort.com
Joerg-Arnu had quite an ordeal in November. Apparently, the authorities busted into his home, because he allegedly had acquired some forbidden information.
https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2022-11-27-show Fortunatly, Joerg was able to go on coasttocoastam.com to tell his side of the story.
https://dreamlandresort.com/team/index.html
http://www.rachel-nevada.com/rachel.html
https://www.youtube.com/@RachelNevada/videos
In contrast, John+Greenewald has been able to avoid such rough treatment.
UFOs and Area 51 Exposed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u65_-lrXFIk , https://www.youtube.com/@UFOTV/videos
Top Secret Anti-Gravity Spy Plane - TR3b Black Manta https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KHVJiUwoYI
What's behind all this (ancient) technology? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0aveRhvKIk If one were to deduce that this all stems back to very advanced ancient ET technology, then of course some of it would have been imitated or copied by now.
The Mysterious Genius Who Patented the UFO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCr2mqR3VN4
The (attempt to build a) Real Flying Saucer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85aFTVijEc8
US Navy "UFO Patents" (and shapes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwp_FedbaAI
US Navy's Secret Advanced Technologies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mT78_jV78Q
https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/?s=helicopters
Black Helicopters - Why Do They Appear? Who Sends Them? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imQtij_5ETo , https://www.youtube.com/@OddSide/videos
BOC - Take Me Away https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1NYhbiiiFw One of the greatest songs about the MIB and other strange and paranormal things.
Soul Coughing - Unmarked Helicopters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCNDymn3PJI X-Files version.
Wednesday, April 22, 2009
Michio Kaku
Michio Kaku
Wednesday April 22, 2009
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanotechnology#Origins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._C._Escher#Selected_works http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Mirror http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Escher%27s_Reptiles.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mottthehoople1969.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Days_(TV_series)#Synopsis http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3d/Seven_Days.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/C60a.png
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{Bald Mountain Radio Site Close-up photo of the Bald Mountain radar and surveillance site. Located on the tallest peak of the Groom Mountain Range just north of Area 51, the two large radar domes are part of a network used by test flights out of Area 51. The site also features all sorts of antennas and surveillance equipment, including remote-controlled cameras, that allows base security to keep an eye on visitors in the surrounding valleys.}
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http://www.dreamlandresort.com/store/giftshop/304.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Lay,_Alaska#Military_Radar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodecahedron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodecahedron#History_and_uses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodesic_dome#Chord_factors http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars_(M._C._Escher) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gravitation.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Escher_Snakes.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cube_with_Magic_Ribbons http://www.whitepod.com/about_us.asp http://travel.sympatico.msn.ca/PhotoGalleries/50_plus_worlds_weirdest_hotels.htm?feedname=PHOTO_GALLERY_50PLUS_WEIRDESTHOTELS&pos=3&nolookup=true
Friday, August 09, 2013
Art Bell will be on Sirius XM to host a new show about the paranormal
http://www.theblackvault.com/m/news/view/Art-Bell-returning-to-radio-with-Sirius-show-about-the-paranormal#.UgZlh5LUmSo
http://investor.siriusxm.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=781252,
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/radios-art-bell-returning-sirius-xm-show,
http://www.openminds.tv/art-bell-ufo-and-paranormal-radio-returns-on-sirius-xm-1095,
http://www.deadline.com/2013/07/art-bell-siriusxm-radio-show-paranormal,
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread962134/pg1
Art_Bell has always had quite a unique way in talking about the news & metaphysical & mysterious things.
http://artbell.com/category/news
Cool, webmaster Keith Rowland is back to help run the AB website. http://artbell.com/about-us
It looks like much of the AB bumper music will be back on his show.
http://artbell.com/how-to-listen-to-art-bell, http://www.siriusxm.com/internetradio,
http://www.siriusxm.ca/freetrial
1997-9-11
http://artbell.com/trailer-area-51-caller ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee3bld4lTG0
"On September 11, 1997, Bell took a call from a frantic man claiming to be an ex-Area 51 employee who grew progressively more upset as the call wore on, culminating in the show's going temporarily off the air because of a satellite failure. On April 28, 1998, a person claiming to be the caller called back confirming that he was just acting."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Bell#Callers_and_guests
Even if the caller was just joking on 9-11-1997, who had the ability to temporarily shut down a telecommunications satellite on 9-11-1997?
Officially it just happened to go off line on that day.
Technology, EVP & Ouija
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgu3Bcif5m4&list=PLHXC3k892SYRhytaSvr9FGz-6t36K0eFO&index=33,
http://desert-shapes.blogspot.ca/2013/08/witchcraft-board-ouija-board-oracle.html
Wednesday, September 11, 2013
Art Bell 1997-9-11
http://artbell.com/trailer-area-51-caller, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee3bld4lTG0,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU7eMY8bzb0#t=31
"On September 11, 1997, Bell took a call from a frantic man claiming to be an ex-Area 51 employee who grew progressively more upset as the call wore on, culminating in the show's going temporarily off the air because of a satellite failure. On April 28, 1998, a person claiming to be the caller called back confirming that he was just acting."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Bell#Callers_and_guests
Even if the caller was just joking with AB on 9-11-1997, who had the ability to temporarily shut down a telecommunications satellite on 9-11, of all days?
Officially, the satellite just happened to go off line on that particular day.
Of course, the #911 & some-other numbers, have had some peculiar synchronicity with people-places-&-things throughout history. What if history & time in general, is part of an interactive recording & projection? There certainly have been plenty of books & movies about time travel to stir the imagination.
http://artbell.com/ross-howard-3-time-travel
Even if access to a time travel vehicle is out of the question, there is still the imagination. Think back & look back into the cosmic recording & see if any patterns of coincidence or synchronicity are evident.
http://jfvrinfo.blogspot.ca/2013/09/the-city-of-honolulu-and-time-travel-etc.html
http://artbell.com/physicists-to-test-if-universe-is-a-computer-simulation
Think of each galaxy as being like a DVD or BD floating within a cosmic-computer hard drive.
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2012/10/is-the-cosmos-a-vast-computer-simulation-new-theory-may-offer-clues.html
Of course, many people don't seem to be that interested in exploring the possibility of being inside an akashic interactive recording of space & time.
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-10/11/universe-computer-simulation,
http://www.insidescience.org/content/what-if-reality-was-really-just-sim-universe/871
However, some people have been seriously looking into this possibility.
http://news.discovery.com/space/are-we-living-in-a-computer-simulation-2-121216.htm,
http://www.technologyreview.com/view/429561/the-measurement-that-would-reveal-the-universe-as-a-computer-simulation
Wednesday, July 16, 2008
Some key people, places and things...
Strange shapes at Area 51 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQJUax0iAuQ ,
http://www.secretsinplainsight.com/2011/10/07/desert-storms ,
http://desertdarkness.blogspot.com , http://www.desertmysteries.com ,
http://desertvalleyparanormal.com ,
http://dream-prophecy.blogspot.com/2007/11/prophecies-of-stormberger.html
http://desertshapes.blogspot.ca/2013/02/desert-mysteries.html
Etc. is used quite a lot here, because there are plenty of intersecting subjects & topics that can't simply be included into the full title of each post.
This Fair_use, non profit blog is about referencing, sharing & comparing things expressed on several websites with various perspectives.
This blog can be read in any particular order, some posts may have additional material & links provide over the course of months or even years. Some posts remain dormant until enough pertinent data has been assembled.
http://www.last.fm/music/Desert+Sessions
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JUST SOME INTERESTING LIGHTS IN THE SKY, OR IS IT ANOTHER BLACK TRIANGLE CRAFT?
The Black_triangle_(UFO) & The NIN Lights_In_The_Sky_Tour,
http://4.bp.blogspot.com, www.youtube.com,
http://black-triangles.blogspot.com/2007/04/pascoe-vale-ufos-twin-black-triangles.html
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{"There was a white, strobing light on the nose of the craft, and two stationary white lights on the rear. It was big enough blot out the stars and moon as it passed. The most unnerving part of this sighting is that for as big as this craft was, there was absolutely no noise, not a single sound could be heard except for crickets. We watched this thing drift for more than five minutes across the valley before losing sight of it."} http://artbell.net/pages/arts-ufo-story
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http://www.last.fm/music/Nine+Inch+Nails:
Trent_Reznor looks very serious & pist-off in this desert picture location. More folks would be to, if they knew how much advanced energy technology & other things, are kept off most of the populations awareness radar. While some of the LIGHTS IN THE SKY are from elsewhere, some of them are also from advanced copied technology.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u-20g7Bwdw
Shapes: Regolith#On_Mars & On_the_Moon
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/spirit/20080103a.html
It looks like a footprint but officially,"...humans haven't been to Mars yet." www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13101382
http://www.nin.com
NIN music to Mars
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ajsXzTFLYA,
http://desertshapes.blogspot.ca/2012/08/mars-exploration-of-anomalies-mysteries.html
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Of course, Replicas can be much smaller or larger than the original.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uFm4kdAf16Q,
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oSDVWGH5gCE&feature=related
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{Summary: "Saw a huge black triangle with glowing red port holes in the Arizona desert. It was moving slowly along a river where i was camping. It was blacker than night with 6 large glowing red port holes along the side that I could see. The red portholes glowed but did not emit light. They did not brighten up the area or any of the surroundings. The craft was just sort of "gliding" along. Like anti-gravity."}
www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case801.htm
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The Black Triangle Mystery, some have been seen around Nellis_Air_Force_Base.
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Dr. Steven Greer in hour of audio taken from Art Bell and Dr. Steven Greer's March 30th, 2008 Coast to Coast AM radio program. http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6913907C865734EB
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The Spanish_colonization_of_the_Americas has long since ended, but the Western_Hemisphere_Institute_for_Security_Cooperation still exists. Is the earth being colonized by another empire or power through its technology? A Proxy_war or Strategic_surrender?
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http://www.last.fm/music/Nine+Inch+Nails
The NIN Western_Hemisphere Tour.
www.flickr.com/photos/nineinchnails/2552640693,
http://black-triangles.blogspot.com/2007/04/pascoe-vale-ufos-twin-black-triangles.html,
www.flickr.com/photos/nineinchnails/2616512829,
www.musicvice.com/reviews/nine_inch_nails_montreal_november2008.html,
www.setlist.fm/setlist/nine-inch-nails/2009/terminal-5-new-york-ny-3d7a5a3.html
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http://black-triangles.blogspot.com/2007/04/part-4-of-4-black-triangles-sighting.html,
www.flickr.com/photos/nineinchnails/2610205036
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For many, its all just a bunch of lights in the sky, but reality is more than meets the eye.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0We40rEs0ZY&feature=related
The Phoenix Lights incident was an alien spacecraft, former AZ Gov. says
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLUAhVkGmj0&feature=related
Phoenix Arizona UFO Video by a reporter(CNN)April 22, 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSmrIO4wdzA&feature=related
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{"This is the unedited, un-enhanced version. We saw this object from a plane, the pilot tells me we were at about 20,000 ft. at the time - flying from Toyko to Vancouver. Digital camera, so its incredibly grainy and lower quality. It was much more spectacular being there. It lasted about two minutes.. ran out of room halfway through taping this unfortunately. It seemed to just fade away instantly after the video.FILMED the morning of April 6th, 0100 PST."}
Massive UFO Recorded On Boeing 777 Flight To Vancouver (2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIUo6GaYbn4
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It certainly would be advantageous for the powers that be, to slowly poison & dumb down the population. www.iamtryingtobelieve.com
"The initial clue was so subtle that for nearly two days nobody noticed it.
On February 10, 2007, the first night of Nine Inch Nails' European tour..."
www.wired.com/entertainment/music/magazine/16-01/ff_args
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"Wired contributing editor Frank Rose interviewed Nine Inch Nails' Trent Reznor at his house in Beverly Hills on October 18, 2007." http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/magazine/16-01/ff_arg_reznor
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The RAND Corporation www.alexabella.com/books/soldiers-reason/index.html
{In April 1970, a Newhouse News Service story reported that Richard Nixon had commissioned RAND to study the feasibility of canceling the 1972 election.} RAND#Corp www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/31/2874
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Trying to give the $Y$TEM The_Slip and loosen its grip.
Discipline is such a cool song.
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For more fascinating info check out, http://lightsinthetexassky.blogspot.com.